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Discussion in 'HW Helpdesk' started by Johan, Mar 2, 2017.

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    soliver84 Registered User

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    SSD and Windows 10 .. 10 seconds boot.

    For Games 2TB Western Digital Black
     
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    MrNiceBurrito Registered User

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    first of all you havent say whats the reason you want a computer?
    maybe gaming?
    maybe design?
    either way ill say take a look at https://pcpartpicker.com/
    when i did my computer, i was hunting for prices, and since i had no idea of what should i look for i was watching other people builds, and then accomodate to my needs (gaming)
     
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    I suggest buying Gaming version of MSI motherboard and MSI GPU as they last long time and silent. I'm using it and love it.
     
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    Katsurouu Registered User

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    One of the newest CPUs is probably the I7 8700k, and it has great performance. As for an SSD I would go for Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB M.2
     
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    Since you didn't mention what you are going to be using the PC for, I'll give you the current best price to performance general use PC build.

    CPU: Intel i7 7700K
    Link: https://ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_50-GHz
    4.2Ghz Base Clock; 4.5Ghz Turbo Clock
    Unlocked (overclockable) 7th Generation, Socket LGA1151, codename Kaby Lake, 14nm Lithography Processor

    Motherboard: MSI Z270 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
    Link: https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM/Specification
    ATX Form Factor MicroStar International Motherboard; Intel 1151 Socket; Z270 Chipset; DDR4 Memory; Dual Intel NICs; 802.11ac Wireless;
    * You can use the Processor Intel HD Graphics 630 (Max Res 4096x2304@60Hz) or Purchase your own GPU

    Memory: Corsair Vengance 16GB Kit (2x 8Gb)
    Link: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/site-search?searchQuery=CMK16GX4M2A2133C13
    Model: CMK16GX4M2A2133C13
    CAS Latency: 13-15-15-28
    * Native Frequency: 2133MHz XMP 2.0 Clockable to 3000MHz

    SSD: 500GB Samsung 960 EVO Series
    Link: https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...ate-drives/ssd-960-evo-m-2-500gb-mz-v6e500bw/
    Model: MZ-V6E500BW
    NVMe M.2 SSD - Currently Fastest Read/Write I/O available on the Market for the price point.

    If you need Additional Storage I would stick with Western Digital HDDs, Seagate HDDs have poor manufacturing QA and are prone to failure

    The components I have recommended can be used to outfit a Uber Gaming Rig, Video/Photo Editing, or CAD Design. Let us know what you decide, I'm interested to see what you build ;)

    7th Gen Kaby Lake Processors (may) work on Z370 Boards / 8th Gen Coffee Lake Processors will NOT work on Z270 Boards and will only work with the new Z370 Chipset Motherboards
     
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    delphi_king Registered User

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    Add Intel Optane, like a SSD too ;P
     
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    enteraja Registered User

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    watch out intel optane M2SSD
    i see a demo this intel optame faster then generally ssd
    but this intel optane need prosesor Intel Kaby Lake and chipset Intel B250 or Z270
    this spec minimum if you want use intel optane technology

    the price intel optane 32GB equal with SSD 240GB.
    but if you want to access large hdd size you need performance you must have intel opatane 32gb running like cache in internal hdd device.
     
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    H4nZ83 Registered User

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    wow that was superb speed up..
     
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    kookoo Registered User

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    I personally use Samsung EVO Series and boot-up is around 20 sec .
    SSDBoss can help you with the comparison of the choices posted here, I usually find it helpful

    http://ssdboss.com/
     
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    Bakemono Registered User

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    Don't forget to install the latest firmware on your SSD! This is also a mistake that a lot of builders forget and run into performance issues later down the line. If you get a Samsung there are tools to assist in this and can auto check and typically the updates are non-destructive. Only when they have a HUGE bug that they're fixing will it be destructive, but that time has typically past since the evolution of SSDs. I haven't seen a destructive firmware update in awhile.

    NVMe are nice, but for the cost it's difficult, ALSO - to do data transfer you'll find it extremely difficult to create it as an external drive vs SATA based with so many options to make it portable.
     
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    H4nZ83 Registered User

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    if not SSD then go for the HDD with the durability and performance for surveillance, such as seagate SkyHawk or WD Purple, and you can consider a hybrid HDD for now, though the price was quite high, but it deliver the performance and capacity for your need.
    don't forget the cooling system was take into account in building the PC, if you want a silent environment use water cooling system, or extreme one using peltier + water cooling.

    the sound card was also take into consideration if you want to build a PC, if you was a music/movie enthusiast then consider buying a good sound card, or choosing the motherboard that has good on-board sound, or can change the on-board sound chips. If for gaming then i think the recent on-board sound card was sufficient enough for your need now.
    And don't forget to get a good speaker to deliver the sound.

    that's all from my opinion.
     
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    QreOS Registered User

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    Hi Johan, i *really* like the supermicro boards. I am using one of their dual socket boards with a couple of used 10 core xeons off ebay to do proof of concept work.
    20 cores and a bunch of ram, a smallish ssd and a 4-6 sata raid0 lets me scale the virtual environment how i want without breaking the bank.
    You also get their out of band management for free, unlike ilo, idrac, imm etc. (Full disclosure, you may want to search for attacks on ipmi depending on where you are using it).
    I put a gtx 1060 off ebay in it and it plays games pretty happily too.

    http://ftpw.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/
     
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    If money is not considered, I recommend Intel CPU+Intel motherboard+Intel SSD+Sumsung memory
     
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    itsmaxdd Registered User

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    It really depends on your needs. Honestly i wouldnt reject AMD completely. Having 8/16 cores is good if you stream or multitask a lot. I use it for programming and with -j16 it really is lightning fast! Anyway RAM can also play a huge role but since the cost is so high i wouldnt recommend to go higher than 3200Mhz
     
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    Azertyjo Registered User

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    I side with all the comments about getting a SSD. Just installed one on a 7 year old laptop (core i3) and it's really usable again. Also removed the DVD and moved there the old HDD, so now storage is also improved. In terms of performance, i can't really feel much of a different between premium brands (Samsung) and others. Might be a difference in very intensive applications, but for regular day use, 1 sec difference here and there doesn't really hurt. But always remember it's your data, so don't be cheap on that (and i mean, also backup often)
     
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    badduck Registered User

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    Whatever you do, invest on a SSD and use it as your boot drive. Go for SATA if you can't afford NVME.
    That will give you the best performance boost, IMHO.
    After that look for a decent motherboard, something with PCIe M.2 ports would be excellent.
    i5 or i7 CPUs would be fine, and minimum of 16GB RAM, if you are planning to use Windows 10.
     
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    dougr944 Registered User

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    Let me start off by telling you 2 builds I recommend if you're on a budget. I'm going with US sources and prices since that's what I deal with.

    CPU + Motherboard + RAM= $470 USD

    Intel I5 7640x https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD7H7DC7301
    Gigabyte X299 AORUS https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145033
    DDR4 PC3200@CAS16 RAM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820331029

    This puts you about $200 below a mainstream I7 build with a CPU that's a hair faster than an I7-7700K in a few benchmarks. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7640X/3647vsm310543



    CPU + Motherboard + RAM = $556

    I5-9600K + GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS combo https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3876900
    DDR4 PC3200@CAS16 RAM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820331029


    I budget money every year and buy major things every 2 years. If I had to build a brand-new box, I'd be spending around $2200. Instead, I bought 32GB of RAM 2yrs ago, a 1080ti last year, a cpu/motherboard this year, etc.

    Otherwise, there's a lot of good info in this list, NVMe boot drive, I5 CPU is fine for most use.

    I'm really happy with my rig, which is:

    I7-8700K
    ASUS ROG 370 motherboard
    1080ti
    G.Skill 32GB PC3200@CAS14 RAM
    Samsung 512GB 960evo NVMe boot drive
    HP 1TB NVMe storage
    Seagate 8TB archive drive
    Define R6 case